Keeping Christ in Christmas: Another Worldly Distraction

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A couple of years ago, I went to K-Mart during the Christmas season to see for myself just how anti-Christian things have become. As I stood back looking at the Christmas trees, I was amazed. I was angry. Every single box that contained a tree that would be used for nothing other than celebrating Christmas was labelled a “holiday tree.”

How dare K-Mart refuse to acknowledge my faith! How dare other secular companies change “Merry Christmas” to “Happy Holidays” or “Seasons Greetings!” This is all an example of secular society being so. . .so. . .so. . secular! And we Christians must stand up and do something about it. We must “Keep Christ in Christmas!” Right?

well. . .

That’s what I used to think. And that’s what many Christians seem to be devoting their time and energy to this time of year. Just recently I was invited to join a Facebook group called “Keep Christ in Christmas.” On the opposing side, groups like the ACLU somehow seemed concerned with not giving Christ the preeminence during this holiday or any other time. 

It’s obvious there’s a war going on. In particular, some have called this the War on Christmas. At large, we can classify this under the Culture Wars. But as with Proposition 8, I am prone to wonder: is this a battle in which Christians ought to fight? Or is this a worldly distraction? A soldier of Jesus Christ is not to be entangled with the affairs of this world (II Timothy 2:4). I’m afraid that’s exactly what the “Keeping Christ in Christmas” outrage is all about.

Before we choose to exhaust our God-given time and energy to any cause, we must consider if it is worthy. I pray that you would consider the following questions concerning this particular case.

Questions about Keeping Christ in Christmas:

1. Is there any biblical warrant for Christians to demand that society pay homage to Christianity?

When I read the account of the early Christians in the Bible, I see a great gulf fixed between Christianity and society. One of the great distinctions of the Baptist faith is the emphasize on the separation of church and state. I cherish that idea. I believe Jesus made a distinction when He said to “render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s” and “unto God that which is God’s.” Certainly, a Christian’s loyalty to his nation does not hinge on the faith of its leaders. In Acts, the early church dealt with a society that was vehemently opposed to the message of Christianity. Can you imagine Paul standing before King Agrippa and demanding that he respect the Christian faith? Doesn’t it seem so far removed from biblical Christianity for us to be so shocked that the secular world won’t give us fair treatment? The answer to this first question is quite obvious: no.

2. Is there any historical example of Christianity doing so?

Yes, and I don’t think they’ve been such great testimonies. Does the Inquisition ring a bell? Anyone living in the Roman Empire at one point had to confess allegiance to Christ, and in particular, the pope, against the threat of imprisonment or even death. Are we supposed to believe that the majority of those who avoided persecution did so because they were genuine, regenerate followers of the Lord Jesus? Of course not! They were false converts. Centuries later, in Zurich, the Anabaptists were drowned by decree of the great Ulrich Zwingli for not conforming to his brand of Christianity. Later still, the Congregationalists imprisoned and even whipped those who did not conform to their church in Colonial America. Say what you want to defend the actions of your heroes against Galileo, John Huss, Michael Servetus, William Tyndale, Felix Manz, Obadiah Holmes and others, but there is no biblical justification for the church to ever, ever take matters like these into her hands. Let’s not go down that road yet again.

3. Does America’s Christian heritage exclude all other faiths?

Two of the greatest influences on the development of freedom in this country were Baptists. Though they lived during a time in America that was basically void of those not claiming at least some Christian persuasion, they wanted to secure the right to worship according to the dictates of one’s conscience to all faiths. Roger Williams said:

There goes many a ship to sea, with many hundred souls in one ship, whose weal and woe is common, and is a true picture of a commonwealth, or a human combination or society. It hath fallen out sometimes, that both Papists and Protestants, Jews and Turks, may be embarked in one ship; upon which supposal I affirm, that all the liberty of conscience, that ever I pleaded for, turns upon these two hinges–that none of the Papists. Protestants, Jews, or Turks be forced to come to the ship’s prayers or worship, nor compelled from their own particular prayers or worship, if they practice any.

And John Leland said:

Government should protect every man in thinking and speaking freely, and see that one does not abuse another. The liberty I contend for is more than toleration. The very idea of toleration is despicable; it supposes that some have a pre-eminence above the rest to grant indulgence, whereas all should be equally free, Jews, Turks, Pagans and Christians.

When I hear fellow believers say things like, “Look at all these Muslims moving in. Where has our country gone?” I just think, where has our sense of religious freedom gone? Hey, I’m no friend of Islam, but according to my beliefs as a Christian, as a Baptist, and as an American, I should not be seeking society to favor my religion over that of those Williams and Leland referred to as “the Turk.” 

Maybe you’re thinking, “well that’s fine. Include them. But what about all the instances in which nativity scenes are taken down and menorahs are put up? Or schools in which you can’t pray but you have to learn about Islam? It’s a matter of fairness.” I agree. But I didnt’ expect society to be fair, did you?

I have a few Jewish friends and a Jewish cousin. I don’t wish them a Merry Christmas. They don’t wish me a Happy Chanukah. I don’t wish my Jehovah’s Witness cousin a Merry Christmas. She doesn’t wish me a happy. . .Tuesday. Some insist that we have to be boisterous about wishing everyone a Merry Christmas even if they don’t celebrate it. Yet those same wouldn’t want to be wished a Happy Kwanzaa or Ramadan. We have to realize that Christmas is our holiday. Christmas is exclusive to Christians. Chanukah is exclusive to Jews, and so on. The public sector should not be forced by any one religion to take sides. 

4. Does God bless America because of her lip service?

Ok, so you say “blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.” And I agree. But don’t be fooled. Just because we have “In God We Trust” on our coins, “One Nation Under God” in our Pledge, and a President who claims Jesus Christ is his “favorite philosopher” does not mean that our country recognizes the true God. In fact, everything in society is indicative of the opposite.

One of my favorite editions of “O Holy Night” is done by Christian artist Dave Phelps. He’s a former member of the Gaither vocal band. He’s been in southern Gospel circles his entire career. Yet, as well done as the song is, the second chorus repeats “fall on your knees. . .” rather than “Christ is the Lord. . .” Admittedly, that bugs me. Yet, today, on secular radio (one of those 24/7 Christmas holiday music stations), both Celine Dion and Josh Grobin’s versions of “O Holy Night” played, and both contained the phrase “Christ is the Lord.” I like that! I think it’s great Christ is being proclaimed even through means of secular radio and secular artists (Proverbs 1:20). Those kinds of things shouldn’t be expected. However, when they occur, we rejoice (Philippians 1:18). But it still reminds me of what Jesus said to the Pharisees:

Mark 7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.

Let’s face it – America’s hearts are far from God. Millions may get up everyday and say the Pledge of Allegiance, but it’s just lip service. The same is true for “Merry Christmas.” We might get people to say it, but to what avail? Is God withholding His judgment on us because people still say it, but ready to pour out His wrath the moment we lose the “Happy Holidays” battle? Someone may dress up like George Washington, acquire an early American way of speaking, come visit a school for a history lesson, and utter a speech of our nation’s first President, but it doesn’t make him George Washington. The unsaved being compelled to say”Merry Christmas” really won’t change a thing.

5. Do we honestly think Christians around the world (especially China, India, etc.) give an ounce of care about what the stores and institutions are saying about the holidays?

I don’t think it’s even crossed their minds, and I don’t think Christianity was ever intended to care so much about it in the first place.

6. Was Christ in Christmas to begin with?

When we talk of the cause, “Keeping Christ in Christmas”, what Christmas are we dealing with anyway? There’s got to be more than one. Certainly, the Christmas that is so commercialized that people become barbaric to fill their greed is not the Christmas I celebrate. Certainly, the Christmas that is part of the Roman Catholic calendar is not the Christmas I celebrate (although I acknowledge this as its heritage). In fact, what would the headline read about what’s going on here if it were true to history:

“Evangelical Christians Outraged That Secular Society Won’t Give Full Honor to Commercialized Catholic Holiday”

It isn’t about keeping Christ in Christmas – society took Him away from their version of Christmas a long time ago. In fact, I’d go so far as to say that putting His name on that commercialized frenzy they call Christmas is almost blasphemous.

7. What is the real battle?

The real battle is keeping Christ high and lifted up in the churches! God did not give K-Mart the charge to preach the gospel! He didn’t tell the ACLU, “you are the salt of the earth” nor did He tell CNN or NBC they are “the light of the world.” If I’m going to complain about something, it’s going to be Joel Osteen’s poor performance as a preacher on Larry King Live. At least I can say he has somewhat a responsibility to deliver. But society does not. This Christmas, let us make sure the Lord Jesus is exalted in our churches. Let us renew our commitment to the Great Commission!

8. How does our attitude about this affect the Great Commission?

I believe when we focus on the Culture Wars, and in particular the Christmas War, we heap to ourselves a hatred from the world we were never intended to have. If they’re going to hate us (which Jesus said they would), let it be for a fervent preaching of sin, righteousness, and the gospel; not because we’re concerned that every lost person and organization conform to our standard. What do lost people think of those crazy right-wing Moral Majority Christians? God tells us to preach the gospel to them and we spend all this time arguing with them about things like this?

As biblically-minded Christians, we should expect nothing less from society. It shouldn’t be a surprise that Christianity is being pushed out of the public square. It just so happens that America has enjoyed a great Christian influence for so long and we’ve taken it for granted. We’re so accustomed to it that it’s shocking to see it dwindle. But it wasn’t society that put that influence there and it’s not society that is to blame for its wrecking. The responsibility will always rest on God’s people. American churches need a wake up call. We have to get away from the Culture Wars and once again engage in the Spiritual Wars. The culture will take care of itself when the quickening power of the gospel is preached. But there’s just so little of that today that we just desire all the results of the gospel without the gospel itself. Well it’s time to face the facts: society does not like Christianity. And it’s not our job to make them do so. It’s our job to take the glorious message of that virgin-born Babe to every creature. This Christmas, don’t be distracted by what the secular world is doing. It wasn’t their holiday to ruin. They’re just doing what secular people do. Let us exalt the miracle of Christmas and leave no room for society to be ignorant of its real significance.

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12 comments so far

  1. SycamoreView on

    Yeah! amen. Lets charge the gates of hell, not the CEO’s office of K-Mart.

  2. adrian on

    The Origin Of Christmas
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    Christmas is a holiday shared and celebrated by many religions.
    It is a day that has an effect on the entire world.
    To many people, it is a favorite time of the year involving gift giving, parties and feasting. Christmas is a holiday that unifies almost all of professing Christendom.
    The spirit of Christmas causes people to decorate their homes and churches, cut down trees and bring them into their homes, decking them with silver and gold.
    In the light of that tree, families make merry and give gifts one to another.
    When the sun goes down on December 24th, and darkness covers the land, families and churches prepare for participation in customs such as burning the yule log, singing around the decorated tree, kissing under the mistletoe and holly, and attending a late night service or midnight mass.
    What is the meaning of Christmas? Where did the customs and traditions originate?
    You, as a Christian, would want to worship the Lord in Spirit and in truth, discerning good from evil.
    The truth is that all of the customs of Christmas pre-date the birth of Jesus Christ, and a study of this would reveal that
    Christmas in our day is a collection of traditions and practices taken from many cultures and nations.
    The date of December 25th comes from Rome and was a celebration of the Italic god, Saturn, and the rebirth of the sun god.
    This was done long before the birth of Jesus.
    It was noted by the pre-Christian Romans and other pagans, that daylight began to increase after December 22nd, when they assumed that the sun god died.
    These ancients believed that the sun god rose from the dead three days later as the new-born and venerable sun.
    Thus, they figured that to be the reason for increasing daylight.
    This was a cause for much wild excitement and celebration. Gift giving and merriment filled the temples of ancient Rome, as sacred priests of Saturn, called dendrophori, carried wreaths of evergreen boughs in procession.
    In Germany, the evergreen tree was used in worship and celebration of the yule god, also in observance of the resurrected sun god.
    The evergreen tree was a symbol of the essence of life and was regarded as a phallic symbol in fertility worship.
    Witches and other pagans regarded the red holly as a symbol of the menstrual blood of the queen of heaven, also known as Diana.
    The holly wood was used by witches to make wands.
    The white berries of mistletoe were believed by pagans to represent droplets of the semen of the sun god.
    Both holly and mistletoe were hung in doorways of temples and homes to invoke powers of fertility in those who stood beneath and kissed, causing the spirits of the god and goddess to enter them.
    These customs transcended the borders of Rome and Germany to the far reaches of the known world.
    The question now arises: How did all of these customs find their way into contemporary Christianity, ranging from Catholicism to Protestantism to fundamentalist churches?
    The word “Christmas”itself reveals who married paganism to Christianity.
    The word “Christmas” is a combination of the words “Christ” and “Mass.
    The word “Mass” means death and was coined originally by the Roman Catholic Church, and belongs exclusively to the church of Rome.
    The ritual of the Mass involves the death of Christ, and the distribution of the “Host”, a word taken from the Latin word “hostiall” meaning victim!
    In short, Christmas is strictly a Roman Catholic word.
    A simple study of the tactics of the Romish Church reveals that in every case, the church absorbed the customs, traditions and general paganism of every tribe, culture and nation in their efforts to increase the number of people under their control.
    In short, the Romish church told all of these pagan cultures, “Bring your gods, goddesses, rituals and rites, and we will assign Christian sounding titles and names to them.
    When Martin Luther started the reformation on October 31st, 1517, and other reformers followed his lead, all of them took with them the paganism that was so firmly imbedded in Rome.
    These reformers left Christmas intact.
    In England, as the authorized Bible became available to the common people by the decree of King James the II in 1611, people began to discover the pagan roots of Christmas, which are clearly revealed in Scripture.
    The Puritans in England, and later in Massachusetts Colony, outlawed this holiday as witchcraft.
    Near the end of the nineteenth century, when other Bible versions began to appear, there was a revival of the celebration of Christmas.
    We are now seeing ever-increasing celebrating of Christmas or Yule, its true name, as we draw closer to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ!
    In both witchcraft circles and contemporary Christian churches, the same things are going on.
    As the Bible clearly states in Jeremiah 10:2-4, “Thus saith the Lord, learn not the way of the heathen; and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven. For the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain. For one cutteth a tree out of the forest. The work of the hands of the workman with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold. They fasten it with nails and with hammers that it move not.”
    So, what is wrong with Christmas?
    1. To say that Jesus was born on December 25th is a lie! The true date is sometime in September according to the Scriptures.
    2. Trees, wreaths, holly, mistletoe and the like are strictly forbidden as pagan and heathen! To say that these are Christian or that they can be made Christian is a lie!
    3. The Lord never spoke of commemorating his birth but rather commanded us to remember the sacrifice of His suffering and death, which purchased our salvation.
    Think about it! Can we worship and honor God by involving ourselves with customs and traditions, which God Himself forbade as idolatry? Can we convince God to somehow “Christianize” these customs and the whole pretense and lie of Christmas, so we can enjoy ourselves? Can we obey through disobedience?
    So what is right about Christmas? 1. Nothing!
    For more information and documentation contact:
    Last Trumpet Ministries International
    PO Box 806
    Beaver Dam, WI 53916

  3. DT on

    Wow, you certainly give a lot to ponder.
    I’m not sure about Mass meaning “death”; I thought it meant “dismissal” or something like that. But I agree that many of our customs at Christmas are derived from paganism and Catholicism. It’s strange that sometimes we use the same arguments against Halloween but simply ignore them when it comes to Christmas. Then again, Halloween makes no attempt to be godly whereas Christmas can be done right, in my opinion, and bring glory to Christ. I think if we look at the origin as a factor in everything, we’d have to discard a lot more than just holidays. Some Christians won’t say “God bless you” because of its pagan roots. I think it’s rude not to.
    But in any of these events, I think we can plead Romans 14:5,6:

    One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
    6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

    It’s interesting that the church at Rome was so diverse, and some members celebrated certain days while others did not. I’m sure those that abstained could tell you why they chose to do so. Yet, Paul doesn’t say, “now listen here, here’s what you can celebrate and here’s what you can’t.” Instead, he urges all to be fully persuaded and act out that persuasion to the glory of God. So within Christianity there has to be room for those who don’t celebrate Christmas and those who do. I think the majority, including myself, do celebrate it. But we shouldn’t flip out when others express why they choose not to.

    I’m also not so sure that Jeremiah 10:2-4 applies here, but I’m welcome to discuss it. There have always been attempts to explain the origin of customs and sometimes they differ. I’ve read an account of the Christmas tree that was entirely Christian in origin. I’m not saying it was true, but at least it’s up for debate.

    Thanks for your comment.

  4. alfaarooq1 on

    Christmass is actually Christ- “Mass murder”
    Think about it nicely… Just over this holiday period many people die because of drunken driving etc… some die because they got shot or stabbed due to getting drunk.
    You find in todays time people use this as an excuse to drink and party, what I normally see happening each year this time is that people go to church drunk go home and try to get even more drunk they get involved with so much of sin, sleeping around etc…
    This is the reality and is a fact, as a Muslim I would want to see your views on this because it is tuely a fact and it’s happening every year.
    I can simply set up my cam and record the events over this holidays and you’ll be shocked…

  5. TJ on

    I’m pretty sure that what alfaarooq1 is describing happens every day. It’s the result of a sin filled culture and has little to with Christmas other than the fact that Christmas generates more parties.
    I’ve never heard of Mass coming from the word death. It sounds like an instance where the word does mean something like dismissal and someone stretched it to be a dismissal from life. Then someone takes the next step and just says the word means death. I don’t know, though.
    As for what this post was actually about…
    I agree with the major premise. We cannot expect a culture that is increasingly secular to retain religious expression, especially during a commercial explosion like the Christmas season has become. So we should stay focused on our commission to preach the gospel.
    There is a political side of the issue which is a completely different discussion, though we don’t often treat it that way. But, outside of the political issues involved (freedom of speech, separation of church and state, etc.) this issue is little more than a symptom of secularization. That’s the realization I think we need – the political issue is revealing a cultural problem; the cultural problem is the result of spiritual depravity. So which do we treat – the symptom or the virus?
    Should we work to see Christ “kept” in a holiday or to see Christ received in a heart? (Man, that’s a good one!)
    Do we want to see Christ celebrated on Christmas or worshipped?
    My only point is the best way (and I would say the right way) to see Christ kept in Christmas is to reach the culture that kicked Him out with His gospel.
    With that said, I think that includes taking the secularists to task. They’re starting the conversation. We have an obligation to respond, not for the sake of Christmas, but for the sake of Christ.
    I also think that Christmas can be a means to two good ends: worship and evangelization. Last year was a memorable Christmas for me because I spent the whole month of December studying the Incarnation. The theme of Christmas is undeniably profitable, but it’s left to us to emphasize it correctly.
    As for evangelization, what better time of year to randomly ask people, “what do you think of Jesus?” Granted, that means we must be ready for the conversation that follows. But isn’t that our job anyway.
    At the end of the day, Christmas Day to be exact, our war is not political, not cultural; it’s spiritual. If that’s the war Christians are fighting, then let’s fight. The only other question I have is, what about every other day of the year?

  6. adrian on

    The True Meaning Of Christ-Mass

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    They tell us that it is the season to be jolly. It is a time of ornaments, red and green decorations, silver bells, holly, mistletoe and colored lights. It is also a time of department store Santas calling out their universal mantra, “Ho ho ho, Merry Christmas.” Nearly all of the realm of so-called “Christianity” join in and repeat this same greeting, “Merry Christmas!”

    Although we hear these words constantly as they resonate millions of times throughout the land, almost nobody understands what they are really saying. It is the purpose of this tract to take the words, “Merry Christmas” and examine the true meaning and essence of those words.

    A true Christian would want to examine everything they say, because Jesus said in Matthew 12:36-37, “But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgement. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.” We will now set aside all of the customs, glitter and traditions of Christmas, which were taken from pagan witchcraft and popularized by the Roman Catholic Church, and we will focus on the true meaning of the words, “Merry Christmas!”

    The word “Merry” is simple to define. It unquestionably means to be happy, joyful and light-hearted. The word “merry” fits into the ambience of laughter and frivolity. This word “merry” by itself is innocent and innocuous enough, but as we will now see, it becomes heinously blasphemous when used with the word “Christmas.”

    Here let it be noted that most people think that the word, “Christmas” means “the birth of Christ.” By definition, it means “death of Christ”, and I will prove it by using the World Book Encyclopedia, the Catholic Encyclopedia, and a book entitled, The Mass In Slow Motion.

    If you are an honest, sincere and discerning Christian, please read on; if not, you might as well stop right here. The World Book Encyclopedia defines “Christmas” as follows: “The word Christmas comes from “Cristes Maesse”, an early English phrase that means “Mass of Christ.” (1) It is interesting to note that the word “Mass”, as used by the Roman Catholics, has traditionally been rejected by the so-called Protestants, such as Lutherans, Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, Pentecostals and so on. The word “Mass” is strictly a Catholic word and thus, so is “Christ-Mass.”

    It would stand to reason, that since all of these denominations love and embrace “Christ-Mass”, that December 25th is the great homecoming day, when all of the Protestants become Catholic for a day. It would seem that all of the so-called “wayward daughters” of the Romish church return to their mother, the scarlet harlot. Thus, all of the so-called Protestant churches could sing to the Pope that popular song “I’ll be home for Christmas.”

    As previously stated, the word “Mass” in religious usage means a “death sacrifice.” The impact of this fact is horrifying and shocking; for when the millions of people are saying, “Merry Christmas”, they are literally saying “Merry death of Christ!” Furthermore, when the fat man in the red suit laughs boisterously and says, “Ho ho ho, Merry Christmas”, he is mocking and laughing at the suffering and bleeding Saviour, who died for our sins. He does this while parents place their little children into his waiting arms to hear his false promises of gifts that he says he will give them. Consider what you are saying when you say “Merry Christmas.”

    What is so amusing about our Saviour’s painful death? What is so funny? Why is Santa laughing? Why are you going along with it? Your words do count and Satan knows it. Yes, the word “Mass” does mean “death sacrifice”, and to cement that fact, we will consider the definition of the inventors of the religious application of the word “Mass.” I am looking at page 537 of the Catholic Encyclopedia, which says, “In the Christian law, the supreme sacrifice is that of the Mass.” It goes on to say, “The supreme act of worship consists essentially in an offering of a worthy victim to God, the offering made by a proper person, as a priest, the destruction of the victim.” (2) Please note carefully the word, “victim” of the Mass. The Latin word for victim is “Hostia” from which the word “host” is derived. The Mass, by definition of those who coined the word, is a sacrifice involving a victim. There is no other meaning for the word “Mass” or “Christ-Mass.” On page 110 of a book entitled “The Mass In Slow Motion”, we find the following words: “It is only with the consecration that the sacrifice of the Mass is achieved. I have represented the Mass to you, more than once, as a kind of ritual dance.” (3)

    In essence, the Mass is the ceremonial slaying of Jesus Christ over and over again, followed by the eating of his flesh and the drinking of his blood. The Mass is the death sacrifice, and the “Host” is the victim. This is official Roman Catholic doctrine, and “Christmas” is a word that they invented. Again, I ask, what is so merry about the pain, bleeding, suffering and death of Jesus Christ? Satan has done quite a job of getting millions of so-called “Christians” to blaspheme. What a deceiver he is.
    Now you know the true meaning of the word “Christmas” or Mass of Christ. There is much more to know about this pagan holiday, and we will be glad to provide you with plenty of evidence that Jesus was not born on December 25th, and that Christmas is not only a lie, but is actually a witches’ sabbat called “Yule” in clever disguise. Please contact us at the address below, and for the sake of your soul, flee from idolatry!

    David J. Meyer

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    Acknowledgements:
    01. World Book Encyclopedia, vol.3, p. 408, 1986 ed., World Book Inc., Chicago, IL

    02. The Catholic Encyclopedia, R.C. Broderick, 1975 ed., Nihil Obstat, Richard J. Sklba, Censor Librorum. Imprimatur, Archbishop William E. Cousins, Milwaukee, WI.

    03. The Mass In Slow Motion, Ronald Knox, 1948, Sheed & Ward, Inc., New York, NY. Nihil Obstat, E.C. Messenger, Censor Deputatus. Imprimatur, E. Morrogh Bernard, Vic. Gen.

    Last Trumpet Ministries International
    PO Box 806
    Beaver Dam, WI 53916

  7. alfaarooq1 on

    Jesus the blessed son of Mary is a Muslim.
    He preached “Islaam” which means “Total Submission to the will of The Almighty Allah”

    http://thetruereligion.wordpress.com/2008/12/01/moses-and-jesus-peace-be-upon-them-are-muslims/

    Take a walk through the blog postings…

  8. Andy McMahon on

    I get what you’re saying. I also have just had a ‘moment of clarity’ (As alocoholics call it)

    I don’t know if the word “Christ” Is as important as the actions. We are called to be the Body of Christ, so to me, keeping Christ in Christmas would be more of us, as “Christians”, not cursing over lost parking spots or not getting that gift.

    Before we ‘keep Christ in Christmas’, maybe we could focus more on putting Christ back in Christians….

    My two cents.

  9. alfaarooq1 on

    If you put Christ in Christians then they would be Muslims and believe as he believed, prayed as he prayed, live as he lived, and be alive in his actions…
    Which body do you live in? clearly not in his image… and he is but the Meaaiah a messenger of the Almighty…

    Find the truth… Follow the Book not mankind.

    The Problem of today is mankind self and not the Holy Scriptures.
    Believe as the true believers believed.

    • DT on

      alfarooq,

      I appreciate your zeal for what you believe is the truth. But I’m asking you to please suspend your comments for now. I’ve given you more than enough opportunity to state your case and promote your ideas. The excessive amount of comments and hyperlinks you’ve been sending could be considered spam, but I’ve allowed it to go through for now. In the future, I’ll tackle some of the issues you have raised in a separate blog post on Islam. Until then, I will not be accepting your comments. Thank you for now, and look forward to the next set of conversations.

  10. Aaron Creagh on

    Well…perhaps I’m somewhat misguided…but I think some of the arguments I’ve been reading here by whoever is writing here and others but I believe that as long as thing are done right it doesn’t matter where they come from. The devil would be very angry if we allow something the he’s trying to do gets the best of us. Call it revenge if you feel that many of Christmas’s customs come from pagan sources. Is Jesus a pagan source? I know that there are people that believe he is based on a sun god or something. Get up out of here! The devil is crafty, this is true. I do believe that Catholicism has the devil’s work in it….I mean…since when is Mary a God, and should be worshiped? mary and Many other saints are prayed to and this just ain’t right. You aren’t supposed to put any god’s before God. Idolatry is a serious offense. So am I worried about Christmas’s customs? No…because God knows why we celebrate Jesus’s birthday. You forgot that God, knows everything? Shame shame shame!

  11. fundyreformed on

    Great post, guys. I missed it just found it now. Exactly my sentiments.

    Blessings,

    Bob Hayton


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